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There is absolutely a better way to go about it. If people keep freaking out over what is essentially really small things, no one will ever understand the why of why something is an issue or offensive because they will be afraid to speak and ask. This is actually something I’ve noticed in a lot of my students, especially when it comes to doing texts discussing certain, uhhhh, let’s be nice and say “events” in Australia’s history because they’re too busy being told “omg you can’t say that you racist!” or “omg how dare you read something by that author you [insert major swearwords here]!” so aren’t actually being taught anything other than their existence and wanting to learn is offensive.

If people want to teach about inclusivity, people need to accept there are things that actually need to be discussed. Sadly, we live in a word of political correctness so people are too busy being offended over literally everything to actually stop, think and learn / understand why something might be problematic.

Example: liking Harry Potter doesn’t mean you hate trans people, it means you like Harry Potter. Now, if you agreed with certain statements said by the author about trans people, then there’d be an issue.

Example: liking romance novels doesn’t mean you’re sexist or approve of abusive relationships, it means you like romance novels. If you start going around saying sexist bs or promoting things in abusive relationships as “positive” or “romantic”, then there’s an issue.

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Wth I dunno his actions speak for itself

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Exactly. Interestingly, a few days later, the same IG person posted about how not every writing process is fit for every writer, and they said that all writers have different experiences that have worked for them.

So them pushing their singular experience onto others and saying “you should” or “you shouldn’t” seems contradictory now :sweat_smile:

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Taking this example, I suppose they could have said something more along the lines of “if you buy HP merch, that supports JKR in doing terrible things, and I won’t associate with you if you continue to support JKR”. This is more understandable I think. It’s more specific about what “liking HP” actually means.

Reminds me of the time my mom told me to stop renting horror movies because it shows support for terrible people and crime

uhhh :sweat_smile: NO

I don’t know where she got that idea

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This year has become the year of challenging new things in an area that I thought I was familiar with.

I finally understand what iambic pentameter is :stuck_out_tongue:
I finally understand what stressed and unstressed means.

I finally understand poetry a little more than I did before.

Since I’ve been a self-taught poet and never taken any poetry classes or had the opportunity, I didn’t know there were poetic forms or methods or terms to describe elements in poetry except line and stanza.

But now I kind of do a little more and for the first time, I’m exploring the craft of poetry like never before. I’m finally understanding poetry.

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Adding to my post above, I learned how to do blank verse poetry.

Anything new you learned?

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Haven’t exactly learned it yet, but in the process of learning how to market a book. I think Audra Winter had the right idea: you have to start hyping it five years ahead of time, so when you finally do publish there’s a waiting audience for it. I’m just trying to figure out where and how to do that. /(^ᆺ^=)\

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HOW

lol

Wouldn’t that only work if you have a lit agent and know that one day your book would be out there?

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Nope, she self-published it. But she started hyping it on her TikTok while she was writing it, so when she finally published it she got something like 6k pre-orders. Granted, all those people later demanded refunds and left her one star reviews, but if you’re hyping a good book, then it should work out well. ¯\_(ﭢ)_/¯

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Shakespeare still haunts me from 10th grade drama :sob:

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I just went and saw her drama.

Reminds me of me, at around her age, thinking my now “book that will never see the light of day” book that I was working on for 7 years was ready for the world and started querying with little edits. I was lucky, perhaps, to get some lit agent to be nice enough to strictly tell me that I wasn’t ready. It hit like bricks.

But I wasn’t going to give up even if I did eventually bury that book for good. I cringe about the 10-page backstory so hard now :sob: What was I thinking? It took some hard reflection to realize I wasn’t ready. So naive. Just because you’re an adult, doesn’t mean you won’t be naive. I was thinking trad pub back then. Thank goodness the self-pub hurdle was too hard at that time or I might have tried to do it.

But it was around the time of Create Space and bad covers :stuck_out_tongue:

Now self-pub is a lot more reachable if you have an audience, and indie authors can create quality books a lot easier.

And now I’ve published a whole different book, Between Roses, with five star reviews on Goodreads. Not a lot of reviews, but the wait, the building of the skill, and all those betas really helped. And of course, editors. Line and proof.

Anyway, I think she needs to do some hard reflection.

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Same. They made me be Capulet and I had to wear an old grandpa hat when he acted it out :ragejoy:

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Exactly! She’s asking for an editor now from among her readers, as if they’re professionals…? I haven’t read her book, but it sounds like it shouldn’t be uploaded anywhere but Wattpad. She’s shooting for the moon when she’s not even ready for a ten minute Katy Perry flight. (>‿◠):v:

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She’s claiming that there are editors amongst her fans

But fans may not help even if they are professionals

They could say “oh that’s good” and say “yes yes” all the time

omg lol XD

I found her illustrator


Hope she gets paid well to say she is the illustrator for The World of Gardian

Is it bad that I thought “Gardian” looks like Audra Winter misspelled Guardian, but noticed too late and decided to stick with it? :stuck_out_tongue: :sweat_smile:

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I thought the same thing! ☜(ˆ▿ˆc)

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Heeeyyy :grin: :fox_face: :raised_hands:

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Does “how to talk to people” count as a new skill?

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In this day and age? Yep

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oops, has it been that long since I updated this thread? :stuck_out_tongue:

Topic: Does the term “AI art” bother you?

If so, why?

On one hand, yes, you could say it is a form of art (as in creating a thing out of a thing), however, on the other hand, what is art if not something that a human person put hours and hours of their heart and soul into?

Art is as old as human language.

If gen-AI is art, then computer code will also be art… Not to say computer code can’t turn into art, but I feel like calling gen-AI as art, well, that’s just plain disrespectful towards human artists because it can be created without intention or thought or meaning, and it can be stolen.

It’s even more disrespectful when people decide to accept AI art as art products that can be sold. Someone spent ten minutes generating things with prompts and then some other people who don’t care, buy those things because it’s often cheap. Over on the other side, artists who spent hours on a similar-looking piece are struggling to keep their business up and their pieces might be pricey, but I think it must be worth that price.

AI slop can swarm the art product world because it can be created so quickly. That’s what makes me sad. As someone who draws stickers for a chat app, as a creator, seeing gen-AI stickers being created rapidly without any effort… sigh.

The stuff that really matters gets pushed to the side until the world is swarming with slop.

Bleh

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Yes. I’d rather call it “AI slop” :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m no artist but I am a graphic designer, so I know a thing or two about design and what makes something look good. AI just spits out uncanny things and it makes people devalue artists and other creative people more. Same thing with AI “books.”

And it especially annoys me when I’m trying to Google something that may be historical or something, and instead of actual images of the thing I’m searching for, I get AI slop :roll_eyes: or if I’m searching for stock images and a good chunk of them are AI slop.

You are no artist. Your product is not art. And stop polluting the internet with your slop, ESPECIALLY STOCK IMAGE SITES.

Whew, was that a rant.

There’s a restaurant in the city that uses AI art to advertise their food, and I refuse to buy from them. You could literally just take a picture of the food you make. Why use AI? It just introduces an uncanny valley and we can’t accurately judge the food before we order it.

Sure you can spit out “satisfactory” slop in two seconds, but I can make a grown man cry. We are not the same.

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