# Fantasy Counterparts to Real world nations in your own stories and popular fiction?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Chatters\ **Tags:** chat, discussion, fun, hangout\ **Created:** [February 4, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723 "2024-02-04T17:12:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/21 "2024-02-04T20:30:23Z")
> [@TheTigerWriter](#): > > I think desert nations are cool šŸ˜ Sadly, I have yet to find a book with a desert nation that was actually good. Iā€™ve read two books taking place in a desert nation and both fell flat šŸ„ŗ It was such a bummer because a desert nation just sounds so beautiful šŸ„° Yay! I think I have a second one too! The gripe with that is the desert nation, regardless of fiction or reality isnā€™t too practical if that is the proper word to use. I mean itā€™s lovely as some well-known fictional desert nations, but the issue is that I had with one story that focused on a desert country, is the lack of resources and water. The country in the story hasnā€™t had rainfall in five years or something. To provide an entire nation with food and water and anything else in a desert nation with lack of those things without rainfall is tough to figure out. Probably why I didnā€™t last long with the story. LOL! Though I love to focus on Pannotia in the story I am working on, but just need to figure out how make it work a bit. I rather not use cheesy idealistic nonsense in the story. ---
**Author:** ![Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/akje/32/27751_2.png) [@Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Akje)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/22 "2024-02-04T20:59:46Z")
Iā€™m writing a Ruritanian romance right now! Mineā€™s based on Regency England, but I decided to use a fictional version instead of the real thing specifically so that I wouldnā€™t have to do any research on that era. Iā€™m so sick of researching that kind of stuff from previous books. Also, I wanted to move Mt. Vesuvius to England rather than have my characters travel there. But otherwise itā€™s a somewhat accurate picture of the start of neoclassicism in Europe with the discovery of Pompeii in the 1700s. ļ¼(=ļ¼¾ć‚§ļ¼¾=)ļ¼¼ ---
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/23 "2024-02-04T21:15:37Z")
Sounds cool. Slightly off-topic: Do you ever read WAY too into things when creating things like that? For instance, Pannotia is a little bit in my mind an idealistic desert nation that came into problems due to lack of rainfall. But Pannotia is located on a fictional somewhat earth-like planet. I get it is a fictional, but itā€™s supposed to be based off a little on places like Saudi Arabia and Jordan or well-known desert cities. I just concern myself with things too early. Sorry for the rambles! šŸ˜… ---
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/24 "2024-02-04T21:17:18Z")
> [@Akje](#): > > Iā€™m writing a Ruritanian romance right now! Mineā€™s based on Regency England, but I decided to use a fictional version instead of the real thing specifically so that I wouldnā€™t have to do any research on that era. What sets your story apart from most Regency novels? Some are either too romantic or a bit too historical or whatever? ---
**Author:** ![LordOfTheRiver](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/lordoftheriver/32/63580_2.png) [@LordOfTheRiver](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/LordOfTheRiver)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/25 "2024-02-04T21:53:47Z")
fun fact, kind of relevant: Game of Thrones is one of the most historically accurate shows out there despite being fantasy. idk after what time itā€™s modeled after (probably medieval Europe) but oh boy is it well made. ---
**Author:** ![Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/akje/32/27751_2.png) [@Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Akje)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/26 "2024-02-04T22:03:46Z")
> [@Qualeshia12](#): > > Slightly off-topic: Do you ever read WAY too into things when creating things like that? Iā€™m reading this book right now, and he says everything in your book _does_ mean something, so thereā€™s no way to read too much into it. (\>ā€æā— )āœŒ > **[Amazon.com: How to Read Literature Like a Professor Revised: A Lively and...](https://www.amazon.com/Read-Literature-Like-Professor-Revised-ebook/dp/B00H1UMRGM?tag=wackywriters-20)** > > Amazon.com: How to Read Literature Like a Professor Revised: A Lively and Entertaining Guide to Reading Between the Lines eBook : Foster, Thomas C.: Kindle Store > [@Qualeshia12](#): > > What sets your story apart from most Regency novels? Some are either too romantic or a bit too historical or whatever? Generally, theyā€™re too idyllic. No one but the villain has any faults or sins, certainly not the women, and thereā€™s such a double standard. Itā€™s okay for the men to be rakes, in fact, it makes them more sexy to the readers, _\*rolls eyes\*_ but the women have to be virginal flowers. Argh. And the worlds are so pretty and perfect. Nothing truly bad ever happens, and thereā€™s never any mention of unpleasant realities that were going on in that period. I guess thatā€™s in keeping with the escapism that romance readers are looking forā€¦? ĀÆ\_(ļ­¢)\_/ĀÆ But mineā€™s a gay romance during a time when that was illegal, and my main characterā€™s a useless, lazy, opium using, alcoholic gambler and playboy who only cares about himself until just before the end, when he goes to the block to protect someone else ā€“ the first time in his whole life that heā€™s ever put someone else ahead of himself. Oh, and then the volcano erupts. That never happens in regency romances. (ā™Æ^.^įƒ¦) ---
**Author:** ![alenatenjo](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/alenatenjo/32/64016_2.png) [@alenatenjo](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/alenatenjo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/27 "2024-02-04T23:03:54Z")
I have a non-fantasy country in my story that is based off a real non-fantasy country. Actually, I have multiple. Does that count? šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/28 "2024-02-04T23:06:01Z")
I will allow science-fiction here too! Tell me, tell me! šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![alenatenjo](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/alenatenjo/32/64016_2.png) [@alenatenjo](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/alenatenjo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/29 "2024-02-05T00:31:20Z")
Italy (Rome) is based off . . . Italy (Rome) Greece (Athens) is based off . . . Greece (Athens) Kemet (Waset) is based off . . . Kemet (Waset) ---
**Author:** ![TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/thetigerwriter/32/28691_2.png) [@TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/TheTigerWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/30 "2024-02-05T07:44:04Z")
> [@JellyGhost](#): > > Alsoā€¦Was Rimushā€™s murder a set-up by his brother? And will we ever find Agade? ĀÆ\_(惄)\_/ĀÆ The mystery continuesā€¦ šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/thetigerwriter/32/28691_2.png) [@TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/TheTigerWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/31 "2024-02-05T07:49:33Z")
> [@Qualeshia12](#): > > is the lack of resources and water What you do is what Saudi Arabia did with the extensive pipelines. ![image](https://wacky-storage.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/3X/7/b/7ba4347eb9f1a08f06cd8897c4100a281a1a47ec.jpeg) I think if Saudi Arabia can manage it, fantasy worlds can manage it šŸ˜‰ I donā€™t really go into how the desert nations in my story work, but I think theyā€™d do it like Saudi Arabia. Somewhere down the middle of the desert are a bunch of large pipes pumping water from a big main source. ---
**Author:** ![TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/thetigerwriter/32/28691_2.png) [@TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/TheTigerWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/32 "2024-02-05T08:02:51Z")
I did just remember I do have fantasy countries based on real world countries. Itā€™s really, really low fantasy. To avoid having to figure out real-world place names and street names and historical accuracy, I did the same New Soleil treatment to another world: the (Other) World. Itā€™s the worldā€¦well, not really. Itā€™s not otherworldly. Itā€™s not _another_ world šŸ˜› Itā€™s just the world, but kind of _other_. Kind of different. So, I have many countries and many states. Idk how many countries I renamed and gave new history to. I could name someā€¦? ---
**Author:** ![TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/thetigerwriter/32/28691_2.png) [@TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/TheTigerWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/33 "2024-02-05T08:24:35Z")
Iā€™ve heard that, too. Dragons are real. Sorry, couldnā€™t help myself šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/34 "2024-02-05T19:18:57Z")
> [@TheTigerWriter](#): > > I could name someā€¦? Sure thing. ---
**Author:** ![Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/qualeshia12/32/63136_2.png) [@Qualeshia12](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Qualeshia12)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/35 "2024-02-05T19:19:34Z")
I tend to overthinkā€¦a lot. šŸ˜… ---
**Author:** ![TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/thetigerwriter/32/28691_2.png) [@TheTigerWriter](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/TheTigerWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/36 "2024-02-05T21:36:03Z")
Lwendolen United Arcan Sensland Parajan Koltsland Evrenland Iptaj Xemica Orquin * * * I wonder if you can guess the real-world equivalents? šŸ˜ Not all of them are obvious. ---
**Author:** ![LordOfTheRiver](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/lordoftheriver/32/63580_2.png) [@LordOfTheRiver](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/LordOfTheRiver)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/fantasy-counterparts-to-real-world-nations-in-your-own-stories-and-popular-fiction/14723/37 "2024-02-06T17:00:11Z")
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