I think I'm missing something here...

Because existence is suffering, I decided to watch this video:

Original Song: (With Animatic:awesome:)

This Corbie’s arguments make me think back to a song I recently heard, Black Cat by Grave Digger. In short it is about a man who kills his cat, and the ghost of that cat comes back to haunt him, driving him into insanity and killing his wife. Could this Corbie also make the argument that the same song is more damaging to people with mental health problems than Mad Hatter? Or is this a whole non-issue and people can make songs about whatever they want, the only thing that matters is if it’s good?

@J.L.O. Pls watch that video, I’ll help recover your lost braincells later

@JohnnyTuturro

@Akje

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Go outside pls :frowning:

I worry about you, Botto.

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But what if I am already outside?

In seriousness, I really want to understand what makes people like this think certain things are OK when it comes to mental illness representation, and what isn’t. Because I find it hard to follow.

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Society’s definitions, culture of what’s right and wrong? Gen Z? I don’t really know to be honest. I’m probably not the best person to ask this :joy: Double standards probably as well.

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It is something I need to think about

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And you should write a blog post about it. A lot of people will agree. It’s the best way to get your thoughts out there, to be honest, on topics like mental health.

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The minute she shows that it quotes Lewis Carol, the naysayers just show themsleves as functionally illiterate and the whole drama should be thrown out as a farce. That simple.

But then, I barely tolerate the overglorifying of “Im offended” fussing about someone else overglorifying a single thing.

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Do you want to hear the original song and make your mind up from there though?

I’m just curious-Melanie Martinez’s voice doesn’t sound like gravel.

Now, seperate and aside from that, yes, music affects your ability to reason: this is why we have scores in movies. Its why we sing together.

The joke of this is that there is no such thing as a safe song that magically will do all the things the people who want the padded walls installed at home are asking for. It does not exist. It never will.

If a perspn is so caught up in music as to not be real, it’s not just 1 song that needs to go–its their whole playlist needs to be altered–maybe silenced entirely.

But THAT is not a job for the opinion brigade.

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You can link it.

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This is a silly thing to nitpick about, but she’s wrong when she says the terms over the bend and bonkers appear in Alice in Wonderland. I just searched the html version of Alice and also Through the Looking Glass, and those expressions don’t appear in either of those books. I remember distinctly when I first heard the word bonkers, and I’d already read the Alice books hundreds of times by then, so I would’ve remembered if it was in there. ( ^◡^)っ✂

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Around the Bend IS indeed a British idiom referring to crazy people, but I think that show that this Corbie(they go by they/them but the cloest they ever got to changing their name was to call themself Crow) doesn’t research or double check everything. They assume that Melanie went through some shit as a child, even though she says that she had a very happy normal childhood…

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To be fair, they included the Disney movie adaptations…

When it’s in the movie adaptation and not the novel, the people are culturally illiterate.

But, bonkers is attributed to the novel, not the movie, when digging around. Not that this should surprise anyone.

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Ahhh! I never saw any of the movies except the Disney animated version, so now it makes sense…the song is quoting the movies. ☜(ˆ▿ˆc)

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Which is more recent in time, so it makes more sense for it to follow something more modern.

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Listened to the first half of the song.

The caterpillar is pretty damn immediate on the song. Why would I take a song that’s clearly about fiction to mean aomwthing sbout literal insanity?

Looked up the lyrics.

Number of clear references to the story in the 1st verse? 3

Yeah, I’m even more of the opinion that some people need to get an education before they object to things.

It’s not homicidal or suicidal . There’s no reason to think this song calls for people to not trust normal people–as in actuvely seeks out people to leave behind their therapy.

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Eheheeheh

Does it come off as tryhard to you or just boring? The Corbie up there claims that it’s about the stigma of mental illness.

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Its sounds popular.

You want a cry for help that should have alarmed people more? Linkin Park. Eventually, that cry for help was followed through with.

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I could say the same thing about Nirvana. No really, listen to Mexican Seafood and tell me that the guys were all mentally there.

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Where was this outrage for Amy Winehouse? They had 5 years, then.

People dont realize how close creativity and instability are.

That being said, your example feels nothing like the things from people who proved their issues.

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