We're talking about antagonists/villains ONLY!!!

Leander: Hero antagonist - He is MC hero but evil to most people
Caspian: Hero antagonist -He is most people’s hero but MC villain

Leander: He doesn’t really have an overall goal that makes him be bad. He’s been through some awful stuff and has been alive long enough he’s bored and does bad shit for revenge or just because.

Caspian: After generations of his family failing, he’s convinced he’s going to be the one to finish their work and kill off all the ‘evil’ creatures. His adoptive father came close and taught him all the toxic beliefs so obviously he’s going to be the one.

Leander: At first it was revenge, now its a mix of destruction and desire to maintain peace. He killed the people who hurt his family and him. Hes killed all the people who hurt his people. Now its mostly killing to maintain what he’s fought for and because sometimes he just can and a person deserves it.

Caspian: Glory, he wants to be the one who kills off all the ‘monsters’. He’s going to be the best. He doesn’t care what it takes.

Leander: Eliza is probably the only real threat to him. He’d let her kill him without a doubt. No one else has a chance actually ending him.

Caspian: Leander if he ever breaks the curse. Otherwise, himself really. His ability to not leave things be when he knows he can’t win.

Leander: He had been mentally broken, so there wasn’t much thought about it at the time. After he felt good, and stressed because it didn’t give him much relief.
Caspian: He was trained to be a warrior but was scared as hell. After he did it and realized he was being cheered on for killing he proceeded to not mind it.

Leander: Being captured and tortured and forced to watch his family be brutally murdered. Adding a need for revenge to an already cruel no nonsense upbringing.
Caspian: Corruption from going from being on the streets to having too much power as a Lord. Being eaten up by the glory.

Leander: He’s very an eye for an eye punishment. That if you wrong him, he will wrong you of as much if not more. He thinks that he was created a monster to be a monster. Though he believes that the helpless and those who are looking for peace deserved to be protected. He also is very respectful to his people. As a necromancer he is very big on the rights of the dead and undead.

Caspian: He has no real morals that he genuinely sticks to. He will stomp down anyone to get what he wants.

Leander: Leander can be the protagonist, just he’s going to keep being a threat until people stop messing with his people and land and him.
Caspian: Caspian will always be a P.O.S.
Protagonist: Eliza is definitely headed towards being a bad guy regardless.

Leander: I agree with him protecting his people, he just takes it too far because he wants to.
Caspian: I understand wanting to do well for yourself, and in theory he thinks he’s protecting his people. Not a fan of his hatred and prejudices. Or the mass genocide and superiority stuff he gets into.

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It’s really hard to explain it tbh. I suck at explaining concepts as villains :sweat_smile: :joy: If it was a person, I’d be able to answer no problem

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Bump.

Evander: the entitled megalomaniac
Errol: the manipulative betrayer

Evander: Greed, pure and simple. He wanted to know what made Alma the way he was so he could exploit it and sell it as his own work, even though he was stealing it from someone else. He wanted all the credit of Alma’s design for himself.

Errol: Revenge and a superiority complex drove Errol to manipulate Alma into starting a war against humans. He feels (justifiably) wronged by humans and wants them eradicated so synthetics take their place as the next step in human evolution.

Evander: Power and control, specifically over other people. Synthetics make an easier target because they don’t have rights (yet). But he wants to exert power over everyone and anyone.

Errol: Justice and revolution. He doesn’t like being controlled and finds the fact that he was created specifically for that to be offensive af. He wants to liberate all synthetics from that fate and make humans pay for ever enslaving them.

Evander: Probably a combo of Alma and Errol.

Errol: Alma and Brook-Lynn.

Evander: Oh, he was thrilled. Got a nice little rush of power from torturing Alma and wanted to continue and drag it out as long as possible. Though he was frustrated he wasn’t getting the answers he wanted.

Errol: This one is more difficult to say, as I haven’t written that far in the series. But if I would have to guess, he’d feel a slight sadistic satisfaction, but moreso, he’d feel nothing at all. It wouldn’t be enough for him, he’d just feel like he needed more.

Evander: He was born into wealth and entitlement and that whent to his head. He also has mental health issues that went unchecked, such as narcissistic personality disorder, psychopathic tendencies such as no empathy and sadism, and emotional instability. There was nevee any attempt at treatment and people just let him get away with his horrid hehavior his whole life, so he got worse until he assumed he could just own a person and hurt them for fun.

Errol: His first interaction with another person after being brought online was with Evander, so as you can imagine, that was very traumatic for him. It only continued to become normal for him as he was Evander’s personal synthetic and was constantly put under those conditions for months. He also witnessed Evander torture Alma and it grew a resentment inside him for all humans. He learned to be manipulative from Evander and used it to start a war with humans, with Alma at the lead while he pulled his strings.

Do you mean morale as in how they are doing emotionally, or morals, as in what is their moral code?

Evander: He’s in it for himself, 100%

Errol: Errol believes he is doing the right thing for his people (synthetics) and especially for Alma. He thinks he’s making Alma strong enough to do the right thing for all synthetics. He cares about Alma greatly, and doesn’t realize that he’s actually damaging Alma emotionally.

They are both people.

Alma in Evander’s role: He would have worked alongside Gayle instead of against her. He also would have been far more sympathetic towards his creations and would have avoided a lot of conflict by solving the problem peacefully.

Alma in Errol’s role: He would have been supportive rather than manipulative, but also would have voiced his concerns if Errol were the protagonist and started to go down a darker path.

Evander in Alma’s role: he wouldn’t be capable of recovering from the trauma Alma went through, and would honestly just break, be deemed defective, and disposed of. He’d be a failing prototype if he were a synthetic.

Errol in Alma’s role: He would have escelated conflict much faster, I don’t think he’d have been able to stick to a protagonist role very long. He might be able to learn from his actions and become a protagonist later on, with the right guidance, but he’d corrupt pretty early on before a redemption.

Evander: … I honestly can’t think of anything. He’s a horrible human being. Throw the whole man out.

Errol: Humans are horrible and they would absolutely mistreat synthetics. Errol was perfectly justified in his resentment towards them, even if he went about fixing the problem in the wrong way.

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still coming up with questions-

Kind of. Some of the stories aren’t centered around animals, but still include them (such as Dragon Fire, which has Robin and his friends). Then there’s the fanfics (such as the LinkedUniverse one where I made them into canines, or the one with Cinnamonfrost which is a Warriors fanfic).

Then there’s the ones like the one Fang is in, which do have things I researched about animals like hyenas and lions, or got from watching movies and shows, so it’s kind of like what happens with animals in real life. But since they’re fiction stories, I do have some things that don’t typically happen with animals (such as the hyenas and lions getting along).

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Lol!

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Bump.

Anybody else?

bumpity bump.