We see it in other areas. You sell yourself too low and people try to cheat you. Set a high standard and you often get better quality clients.
It’s not a hard rule, it’s just that you don’t often see People of Walmart at my Target.
Anyway, with the writing industry, it’s a gated community against setting your standards high enough to not be easily screwed over.
People actually expect to find gems out there, at times, they just expect to find people who don’t value their work enough to keep them from getting their grubby little paws all over it.
I just prefer if it’s for free, I don’t have to think about “is this cheating someone”? There’s no helping that at times it will.
Yup, I think most self-published authors offer a book or two for free, so why don’t pirates take advantage of that instead of stealing books that are priced? There must be millions of free books on Amazon, and millions more on Smashwords.
@NotARussianBot do you have a Kindle, or are you just using a Kindle app on some other device? Because I’ve never heard anyone I know complain about not being able to download kindle books to iPads, phones or laptops, so I assume all those free apps on Amazon work. Are they not working for you? I only have the Kindle app for PC myself, and of course I own a Kindle Fire. But just because I’ve never had problems doesn’t mean other people aren’t having them. Have you contacted Amazon about it? ¯\_(ﭢ)_/¯
I don’t have an amazon account and haven’t ever gotten one in my life. My family used to have a kindle, but ever since I had to order a certain college textbook that never got delivered, I can’t say I am very interested
This might seem like a weird thing to say, but everyone is so pro-lovey-dovey.
Like a story with zero romance, but strong family relationships and friendships always seem to attract love struck people who have such idealistic thoughts on romance as a whole.
When the story ends with NO ONE getting into a romantic relationship and staying friends and just close, that will drive these people absolutely mad and angry.
That they start ranting and raving in such a negative and spiteful way that it is so comical.
I get that it depends on the genre, but it so funny. I don’t mind a good romance sometimes, but other times I want great relationships in other non-romantic ways.
Am I the only one who feels like this? Maybe I just find romantic love annoying or something…don’t know.
If you’re gonna do them, do Webtoon and A24 and pick something unique instead of whatever copy-paste stuff they keep picking. Shock us. Do something other than Perfection Addiction or After, please. I saw the trailer, and it’s kinda boring and misogynistic. Why does the girl need a dude to stand up for her and beat her ex up? Why can’t she break him down in another way that’s not physical, why can’t she overcome Chad McPlainface herself, without getting Ross Butler to do to it? Isn’t it HER battle to fight?
Thiiis! Why can’t they just rate it like video games. Teen 13/16+. Mature, 18 onward. What is this weird limbo genre, new adult? It’s almost like they’re trying to insinuate that “real adults” can like the kinds of books that are typically labeled as NA. Tired of people always trying to define what’s adult.
Not to mention it shifts depending on where the book is from. I was reading a romance manga a while back that had a surprisingly adult scene between lovers, it wasn’t totally explicit as in showing body parts but it was enough nudity to be like, wow, I wouldn’t read this on the train if someone was looking over my shoulder. I read the rating on the back and it’s like… 13 and up. I was like whaaaat? (insert confused pikachu face)
I also have manga from the same title and for some reason, someone was half asleep at the press or who knows what because half the books are one height, then they get slightly shorter. Drives me crazzzzy.
Anyway, my personal hot take is I’m tired of people trying to ban or promote books based on political beliefs in the west. It’s just like that manga. What’s viewed one way in one part of the world could be something totally different elsewhere, and yet we’re trying to define books from like the 1800s to today’s standards, and to specifically western standards like that is all that exists on this earth. Yes, there are going to be uncomfortable topics from really ancient books, sure. Doesn’t mean we can’t learn from them as far as how to not be a crap person, but God forbid people read stuff and have to know the difference between good and bad on their own, and need to do some critical thinking.
I also wish romance was separated in stores like fanfiction. Yaoi? Right here. Monster romance? Here! Tall girl x short guy. This aisle! Werewolves and vampires, here! Gangsters, aisle 3. Or I wish I can look up books like recipes. A little bit of tsundere, a little bit of this and that, and then get book reccs lol
I know nothing of the titles you mention since I ignore most of what WattPad promotes. Odds are if it’s “popular” there, I won’t like it haha. The only valid reason where I can understand Chad needing to defend his lady’s honor is if her ex was some kind of stalker/abuser and while she’s living with Chad, he breaks into their house or something. I know if that was my ex, and something like that, I fully expect my man to beat his a$$ while I call the cops. And because I ain’t no UFC fighter. I’m not fighting a man at my size.
Anime is worse. Half of them don’t even have endings because they want you to purchase the manga so you can wait half a year for ONE new volume to come out so you can read it all in like an hour. Whyyyy?!
Same! I used to read the novel but then when it came back with the new season, I started reading the webtoon instead. Wait- are you talking about the novel? It doesn’t have an ending? Don’t say thaaat.
Yes, that is very true. Especially, when the anime DOESN’T get another season which it surely needs. Then the manga continues and when the manga finally ends, you’d think that means they’ll toss in another season because they have all the material…right?
Wrong?! There is no other season happening leaving people to wonder if there will ever be an anime continuation.
porn. Women consume just as much smut as men do, but it’s geared towards a nature/nurture divide between the sexes (notice sexes, that means I’m not talking about anything outside of Cisworld, here). That means statistics: men consume more visual porn and women consume more mental porn. This is why after a movie a guy will go look for pics of a woman not in the industry or a look-alike porn actress because the star in question didn’t fully fulfill their drive while it fed every other need in entertainment.
It’s really no different for reading. You read an action book/movie, you demand the porn version of the action movie right behind that.
The really big difference is that the reading side of things can be a bigger trap, as it’s geared towards an emotional connection, not just poking (which is why this sometimes is fought out without actually wanting the deed done, just needs the relationship). Considering that we have generations of men who were taught to bottle themselves up and not connect, on top of there being some nature angles as well (men speak thousands of words less than women per day), there is an urge to combine our mental porn with meaning.
Now, there’s tons of people who don’t live this mentality, don’t get it, but you can kind of pick up on who definitely fit this by their comments.
I have seen moe works and even MLP has this to a degree because not all the ponies settle down and have kids by the end. I don’t think anyone was complaining super hard about Applejack and Rainbow Dash not getting married but I had a pretty distant relationship to the Brony online fandom.
School - Live’s manga had all the girls progressing in their new careers, be it teacher or doctor or writer, but no wedding bells were ever heard.
Most book published in the West that get super popular are rarely in the Iyashikei genre, and 97% of Shoujo is some kind of boy meets girl story. All I know is that Booktok loooooooves romance and romantic subplots, so writers are discouraged for keeping it romance free unless they’re doing it for the a-spec representation.
Yeah, same but they’re really promoting this in the app at the moment. I can’t seem to escape it, so I’m using the online Wattpad website with adblock instead. It makes it so much easier to scroll through, without interruptions when I need to read something.
And yeah, same. Popular Wattpad books are not my demographic, lol.
He doesn’t appear to be those things, lol. Not from the ad anyway. He just seems like he likes to break things and bones, rather than break into houses Typical sort of LI for these adaptations, it seems lol.
Oh yeah, don’t even get me started on amazon kindle… speaking as a person who lived in a part of the world where you can NOT even legally purchase e-books from them if you wanted to. I know tons of people who literally SPOOF American addresses just so they could LEGALLY purchase a book.
Sadly so. I don’t know who is pirating self-pubbed books. Back in my days, people in my environment are literally torrenting… University textbooks, journal studies, and fiction by big-name authors who they’ve actually at least heard of before. Who on earth is hooking on to mIRC and searching up random author names they’re not even familiar with.
For me, none of that fangirl stuff does me any good. I like stories that are more “It was there all the time”, as in the relationship was established from the start of the story, whether it’s solid or it’s rough. Don’t ask me to tack that snot at the end. Now, I’ll read slow burn, but I don’t really write it without it being “within security” of a relationship.
So, fan demands aren’t what I’d be able to join in.
That just sounds like a man with insecurities to me. I dated someone like that once. Was walking down the street with him and he claimed some guy “looked” at me. I didn’t see it myself but I was like whatever. There were like 5 of them and 1 of him. I tell him not to bother. We part ways. The next day he’s all excited saying “him and his boys” went and “taught those guys a lesson” and I was like… bro… you didn’t do that for me. You did that for you. Like they need to overcompensate because they feel threatened even though the threat is all mental or it’s not even worth it. Just
I’m just imagining some meathead character that never speaks unless it’s like “I like breaking bones hur hur.” Go get him, Joey! Break his bones! “Right, boss hur hur bones!”
I ain’t crazy about romance nor should I be. I don’t see the world through heart shaped eyes. I want a great friendships, familial relationships, and the characters to be content and at peace with being alone in my fiction.
Hence, I write WAY more than read fiction. Everyone is so romantic, which is fine sometimes. I just want friendships and great family dynamics that aren’t so idealistic and cringey as hell.
I was like whaaaat? (insert confused pikachu face)
Whyyyy?!
Don’t say thaaat. 
they always are ChadMcPlainfaces.
Typical sort of LI for these adaptations, it seems lol.