Who you gonna call? A ghostwriter???

I recently learned about this thing called homeopathy. It’s basically a placebo effect type of medication. I learned about it through reading up on Tina Turner who took this medicine and it made her worse. It’s like really watered-down medicine. The higher dosage, the less medicine in the capsule, but the idea is that the water will remember the medicine.

Idk if this is what you did, but it made me think of it. You don’t have to say if this is the one or not if you’re uncomfortable talking about it.

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As for ghostwriting, the only issue I have with it is when the author doesn’t disclose they used a ghostwriter, and when people ask, they lie that they didn’t use a ghostwriter .

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Ghost in the Shell Typewriter.
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That’s what I went through. It was a terrible ordeal and I hate being treated like a lab rat.

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Aw, poor you! :pleading_face:

You’re out of that now, right?

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Yes. No more meds.

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Good to hear. At least you’re not on those anymore :grimacing:

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No more comments, please.

When I started out writing I did, however now I’ve been writing for so long, I on the whole, get it.
I will admit, though, what I find awful is when ‘celebrities’ get a ghostwriter for everything and then creating a ‘brand’ and showing off like they put the hard work in and sat for hours and hours writing and slaving over their book as if it were their baby.
No, you didnt, you cheated and are reaping the rewards of someone else’s work.
I’m sorry, I just can’t stand that. I dont know if its a thing anywhere else but like in the early 2010s approx, there were big ‘celebrities’ (like models and people like Paris Hilton ie famous for being famous) doing it and it became a whole ‘thing’.

But in like “I’m storyteller and not a writer” or “I’m disabled and can’t write” or anything like that? Yeah, cool, go for it. I even get people like Britney Spears etc writing memoirs with ghostwriters (though Britney’s one needs to go and learn the craft a bit more, it was a truly awfully written memoir)

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Given how absolutely insane narrative construction for full length novels can be, and this is ignoring the editing process in general, no. Just…general background structural work that no one even sees but is absolutely vital.

I’m at the point where I’ve probably thrown out something like 200k-300k words across five drafts (with some structural revisions still outstanding), my outline is 10k words long by itself and even all my other major notes are in the thousands, I’m running mathematical calculations for tension/pacing across the narrative and needing to create actual graphs to identify weak areas, and I have numerous timelines tracking subplots across scenes.

The reality is it’s hard, and I’m overwhelmed. And I’m not even handling a massive series with multiple intersecting viewpoints and character arcs. My respect for writers of complex narratives has grown tenfold due to this, jfc.

I wouldn’t blame anyone for using a ghostwriter given how absolutely insane all the behind the scenes work can be, lmao. I wouldn’t blame anyone for not being up for it. There’s so much more to it than just writing and that ‘so much more’ is easily 90% of the workload. This project’s lucky I love it.

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I feel bad for the people who found this thread after the decision to go for it has greatly changed.

I no longer plan to publish anymore. The only way I publish is if I come to a place where I can manage my AuDHD better and lifestyle as well, by then anything can change.

So, I am sorry for this.

@Cai @MiniMoxx @korralistic

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i’m mixed on the topic of ghostwriters. if you have the plot, ideas, worldbuilding, basically have the entire story just not written into novel form and hire a ghostwriter (whether it be due to some sort of issue or disability that prevents physically writing yourself, feeling as if you lack writing skills/don’t write well, don’t have the time, etc., any reason) then who cares. you’re the author. a writer? no, probably not. but definitely an author. that’s your creation, no doubt about it, and i wouldn’t think less of them for using a ghostwriter. otherwise? yeah i… don’t like ghostwriters; well, not those individuals themselves, but the person utilizing them/utilizing them overall. as in, you have nothing. maybe the faintest of an idea, such as idk, “man born on moon. has moon powers” maybe even “names david” or maybe not and literally nothing else. and then hire a ghostwriter to take that rudimentary barely existent idea and they run with it; they create an actual plot surrounding it, they do the worldbuilding and create the characters and story arcs and plot twists and ending; they create the book, but the guy who chimed man on moon idea takes credit for everything and claim they are the author. i’m against that.

@Qualeshia12 idk if you tagged me to bring me into this thread (for which i was already replying before you did lolol!) or because you saw that i was replying but regardless, i hope the best for you! i don’t have autism, but i do have adhd and i know how hard that can be. but it is possible to live around/with it, even if it can be hard, so i hope the best for you that you can come to learn how!

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Thank you for replying back to me!

Yeah, I noticed you typing so I had to step in before you gave your comment. :grin:

Took me far too long to think of this song…

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