# YouTube For Writers...?

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**Category:** All Things Writing\
**Tags:** chat, writing, question, feedback, help\
**Created:** [September 13, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259 "2024-09-13T16:31:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/1 "2024-09-13T16:31:04Z")

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What videos on writing do you guys watch?  
Aside from the typical book reviews and how-to-write guides by experts like Jimmy McBuymycourse.

What do you think is lacking in the YouTube space for writers?

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/2 "2024-09-13T18:54:21Z")

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Abbie Emmons is a really great YouTuber for writers.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/3 "2024-09-13T21:56:45Z")

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Shitposting

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**Author:** ![Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/akje/32/27751_2.png) [@Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Akje)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/4 "2024-09-14T00:48:08Z")

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Our own Enna has a YouTube channel where she offers writing advice:

> **[Enna](https://www.youtube.com/@Fox_in_Thoughts/videos)**
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> Hi there! I'm Enna. I review writing advice articles and get frustrated with them :P Come on the wild ride if you dare. 
> New video once a week. Sometimes twice.
> 
> Does a good writing advice article exist? I'm a fantasy writer on a self-publishing...

As for what I think is lacking in writing advice videos, I’d say it’s examples from famous works. Self-published writers always use their own books as examples of what they’re trying to explain since they’re really trying to get you to buy their books. But since I haven’t read their books, those examples are meaningless to me. I wish they’d use famous books or movies or TV shows to make their point instead of trying to foist their books onto me. ¯\_(ﭢ)\_/¯

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/5 "2024-09-14T01:01:20Z")

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The only writing youtube channel I follow is the plottery and I don’t watch their stuff very often tbh. Not because they aren’t good, I just don’t have much time.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/6 "2024-09-14T02:15:53Z")

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Seconding this!

Her videos are great brain food and also nice to have on in the background while busy with other things. There’s a fun energy to them and they always feel like she isn’t reading from a script and doing a by the numbers sort of thing; feels more like you are being personally addressed, which is something I wish I’d see other people do in their videos more often!

Her and her videos are actually how I found out about this place! Definitely worth a look 👍

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**Author:** ![Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/user_avatar/forum.wackywriters.com/akje/32/27751_2.png) [@Akje](https://forum.wackywriters.com/u/Akje)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/7 "2024-09-15T00:30:37Z")

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I totally agree with all of this! (\*＾-‘) 乃

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/8 "2024-09-15T05:19:05Z")

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Sounds like my cup of tea, thanks for the recommendation.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/9 "2024-09-15T11:10:07Z")

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I recognize your name! 😁 Thanks for coming to check out my channel and @Akje thanks for recommending 😉

I also have an actual writing advice channel where I give advice (advice is an opinion based on experience, which I talk about in the first video)

> **[Writing Advice with Enna](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC37blSQvLj6vYYsdIx8_NLQ)**
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> Writing advice in the way that it should be -- advice is an opinion of what to do. It's not "the best" or "the top 5". I'm a pantser and fantasy writer. This writing advice is all based on personal experiences, opinions, and discoveries. 
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> A lot of...

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/10 "2024-09-15T11:33:00Z")

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> [@Fazen\_Lai](#):
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> What do you think is lacking in the YouTube space for writers?

Reality. Lack in reality.

So many writers like to show the aesthetics of writing. Pretty set up. Nice music. Calm atmosphere. Rain. Candles. Coffee or tea. A pet. Very few show the actual struggles of a writer, so it looks like you just sit down and create wonderful things.

Many also give very biased or general advice (“show don’t tell” for example) and I have yet to see many who admit to their faults if they had them in the past. They don’t revisit old pieces of advice they gave five years ago even if that advice might have been somewhat false.

Not to say _no one_ admits faults. Some do.

They also tend to be exactly like the problematic writing advice articles—“you must do this, or you are not a writer” type of language. Or “these are the top five things you are doing wrong” (sometimes without even going into why and how those things are wrong in detail).

I also see people who give writing advice don’t clearly know who they are giving advice to. Beginners? Intermediates? Advanced and experienced pros? The type of advice given will differ depending on the person. I’m going to try to give advice in three levels. Working on it, at least. I do have one video up.

So far, I haven’t found ONE person who is consistently giving useful advice. Usually it’s a video here and there from different creators.

Here are some I find to be not bad so far:

This one, not necessarily for advice, but she does show her writing struggles. I very recently found her.

> **[Mik Writes](https://www.youtube.com/@mikwrites/videos)**
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> Deep diving and analyzing while also on my own writing journey ✨

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World building stuff. I wouldn’t say everything is helpful, but if you’d like to binge watch stuff on world building, you can check this channel out.

> **[Hello Future Me](https://www.youtube.com/@HelloFutureMe/videos)**
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> Writer, worldbuilder, video essayist, bread connoisseur, and person who talks about The Last Airbender probably a little too much.

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Bite-sized videos. I did cover an article by him that I found kind of weird, but I do still like the way he breaks things down in the videos. Thanks to him, I now know my character is an anti-hero.

> **[Jerry B. Jenkins](https://www.youtube.com/@NovelistJerryJenkins)**
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> Writing advice from 21-Time NYT bestselling author Jerry B. Jenkins

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Jed Herne does do “the worst ways” and “the best ways” type of lists which…I’m not sure what to feel about (can I trust his word? idk), but he does have some good things on his channel if you look around.

> **[Jed Herne](https://www.youtube.com/@Jed_Herne/videos)**
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> Helping you write better fantasy books!
> 
> On this channel, I share the best fantasy writing advice that I've learned from publishing four novels and a bestselling video game.
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> My published books include Kingdom of Dragons, The Thunder Heist, Across...

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/11 "2024-09-15T11:36:28Z")

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> [@DoomVroom](#):
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> they always feel like she isn’t reading from a script

I never have a script XD You’d be able to tell if I had a script. I sound like a robot

> [@DoomVroom](#):
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> Her and her videos are actually how I found out about this place!

I’m so happy that you’re here 😊 If you have writer friends offline or on other sites, tell them about Wacky 😁

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/12 "2024-09-16T07:27:44Z")

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I’ll take a look.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.wackywriters.com/t/youtube-for-writers/15259/13 "2024-09-16T07:52:16Z")

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> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> Reality. Lack in reality.
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> So many writers like to show the aesthetics of writing. Pretty set up. Nice music. Calm atmosphere. Rain. Candles. Coffee or tea. A pet. Very few show the actual struggles of a writer, so it looks like you just sit down and create wonderful things.

I’m inclined to agree. Though I would also say there’s a lot of nomothetic criticism against aspiring writers with little to no specifics. Though blanket criticisms without specificity can be symptomatic of a fragile ego, I suppose.  
I’m all for brutal criticism of people and their work, but come on, be accurate with your observations, please.

> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> Many also give very biased or general advice (“show don’t tell” for example) and I have yet to see many who admit to their faults if they had them in the past. They don’t revisit old pieces of advice they gave five years ago even if that advice might have been somewhat false.
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> Not to say _no one_ admits faults. Some do.
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> They also tend to be exactly like the problematic writing advice articles—“you must do this, or you are not a writer” type of language. Or “these are the top five things you are doing wrong” (sometimes without even going into why and how those things are wrong in detail).
> 
> I also see people who give writing advice don’t clearly know who they are giving advice to. Beginners? Intermediates? Advanced and experienced pros? The type of advice given will differ depending on the person. I’m going to try to give advice in three levels. Working on it, at least. I do have one video up.
> 
> So far, I haven’t found ONE person who is consistently giving useful advice. Usually it’s a video here and there from different creators.

Finally, someone who sees it.  
Most writing videos out there aren’t just bad, they’re embarrassingly incompetent.

The only YouTubers I’ve found who make genuinely useful videos on writing (though they are in the movie/TV show criticism category) are the fellows over at EFAP. It’s a podcast with three main hosts and a random cycle of guests who go on long breakdowns of writing advice videos.  
Mauler (the host of EFAP) makes ridiculously detailed film criticisms (mainly Marvel and Star Wars).  
But their advice and rhetoric applies to all mediums of storytelling.

> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> This one, not necessarily for advice, but she does show her writing struggles. I very recently found her.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/@mikwrites/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@mikwrites/videos)

I’ll take a look, never seen her vids before.

> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> World building stuff. I wouldn’t say everything is helpful, but if you’d like to binge watch stuff on world building, you can check this channel out.

HFM has an air of genuine enthusiasm that I appreciate, but he’s just not all that helpful. Once you really listen to what he says, you find that he can often contradict himself. He also falls into the major trap of making statements as if they’re true with zero qualifications or detailed argumentation.

> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> Bite-sized videos. I did cover an article by him that I found kind of weird, but I do still like the way he breaks things down in the videos. Thanks to him, I now know my character is an anti-hero.

I’ll take a look, never seen his vids.

> [@TheTigerWriter](#):
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> Jed Herne does do “the worst ways” and “the best ways” type of lists which…I’m not sure what to feel about (can I trust his word? idk), but he does have some good things on his channel if you look around.

Like you said, you never feel like you can trust the guy because he never (from the videos I’ve seen) backs up his advice with examples beyond a couple lines from a novel he liked.  
He’s also constantly trying to pitch his course which makes his videos feel more like 10-20 minute ads than didactic resources.

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> [@Fazen\_Lai](#):
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> Mauler (the host of EFAP) makes ridiculously detailed film criticisms (mainly Marvel and Star Wars).

![IMG_2434](https://storage.wackywriters.com/original/3X/c/0/c0d939276e2260424a251679e32c2b515fd0c2ec.jpeg)  
My people! I loved the streams breaking down Moviebob, quite possibly the worst movie reviewer online these days. He is worse than Longman because he never explains anything!

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> [@NotARussianBot](#):
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> My people! I loved the streams breaking down Moviebob, quite possibly the worst movie reviewer online these days. He is worse than Longman because he never explains anything!

🥳  
Those streams were painful. Though most rat reviewers they cover range from abysmal to abhorrant.  
I’ve been listening/watching to so much EFAP I struggle to choose a favourite. Probably Ep 274 though if I had to choose one.

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Hello Future Me made a video recently on redemption arcs, have you seen it?

As a Dragon Ball fan, I maintain that who and what you can redeem is reliant on the tone and feel of a story. That is why Vegeta got a redemption arc and Azula didn’t, even though Vegeta has a body count worth several planets, attempted to blow up planet Earth, aided killed Z-fighters on-screen, killed his partner in battle when he was severly weakened, and has attacked a four to five year old Gohan in both the Saiyan and Namek Sagas.

Azula tried to kill Aang but didn’t succed, but the rating limitations and tone of ATLA make her comparably less evil. Helps that Azula is 14 and Vegeta (at the start of Z) is 25.

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Can I drop you my answer in a dm?

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OK, but I have to ask why. Too long? Too contreversial?

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It’s a longman 😂  
And off topic

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