Allow me to introduce you to the wonderful world of heavy metal.
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I was so deep in the Wattpad drama at that point 
God, I really had no life. It felt like life or death at the time when all those âissuesâ really werenât that big
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Mm, heavy metal is a bit too much for me, but thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, One Piece has no romance in it! 
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Their faces are so creepy though :c
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Less mentally scarring than Kaiji, though. 
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Teenagers for ya. Same thing happened to me 
Only the manicure scarred me. Everything else was fine 
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You are a tough Churro
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I am, the staleness helps a lot
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Thanks for the feedback 
Iâm still figuring out if I do even want to say âshe tried her lunar magick on the barrierâ or anything of that sort. Maybe I should just say, âone day, her magick made the barrier crash down unexpectedlyââŚor something along those lines.
The truth is, she wasnât expecting to destroy the whole entire thing, just the part of the wall near her clanâs territory. She also didnât think it would work
But she ends up doing like a Thorâs hammer type of move at the barrier with her magick and it all comes crumbling down.
That sounds really interesting. I must ask nowâŚabout the lore 
(I make this face because if you want to join, I have an entire thread for asking each other questions about our lore.)
What kind of magic do you have in your story?
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Hmm⌠itâs a tough matter. Because how important is it in the end that itâs accidental? It does happen. I suppose one sentence or half of a sentence canât hurt, though.
So Iâve been working on an energy/electricity-inspired magic system the past 2.5 years. Magic is energy, itâs guided by intention, and you can use tools (herbs, symbols, incantations, etc.) to try and keep it from running wild. The main magics focused on are chaos/death/corruption and order/healing, but thatâs mostly because those are the two opposing forces in this book. The magic can be shaped into anything and everything.
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Itâs kind of accidental in that she didnât mean to do the whole thing, but that part doesnât really matter in the end. Like you said, it happened and thatâs what matters. The destruction of the barrier kickstarts the whole rest of the story.
So, what does the magic without intention look like or do?
I have this story where magick is energy and itâs white. It can only be channel through gems. Without gems it just fades into the air or returns to the wielder.
Iâm curiousâŚwhat is order magic? I can understand healing and the opposing ones, but I canât imagine what order does 
And what kind of symbols do you use in your story? Does the mage have to use incantations together with symbols or can they just conjure symbols?
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To quote, erm, myself (âHelenaâ from Helenaâs Book of Shadows. Helena is my middle name so I made her this old knowledgeable witch 
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âMagic is like a little army of 100 goblins. They will listen to you, but they will try to go outside your orders wherever they can to make a mess. The more direct and detailed orders you give, the less chance the little goblins have of taking your word and running with it.â
Essentially, if you arenât focused or donât guide it well enough, it will do whatever the hell it wants. Sometimes thatâs too fizzle out. Sometimes thatâs to drain your life energy. Oftentimes itâs to cause a big explosion, a lightning-like arc, or another brief, destructive burst of power to release it back to its normal state.
Without any intent at all, however, a person canât summon or wield it. Itâll just lie dormant in the environment or the magic userâs body.
Hmmm⌠Chaos is transformation, change, yeah? Order would be the opposite â strength, solidarity. Not changing. Reinforcement and stuff. Neither is inherently good or bad. Itâs about who uses it, how, and for what purpose.
Once I rework the novella into a novel, I plan to go more in-depth with the order paladin Gwydion and why they refuse to ever be seen without wearing their archaic suit of plate armour. Even at home, they are fully covered up, albeit not with heavy armour. Itâs really a severe case of gender dysphoria, since theyâre a masc-leaning nonbinary person, while they were born a femme. I intend to have Mathias (the chaos mage) help them change into who they want to be through magic so they can do away with the severe dysphoria 
Like, they avoid mirrors like the plague, itâs very unhealthy
Depends entirely on the magic user! The system is very agnostic. What matters is that you believe it works, so that it helps you focus your intention. Some symbols are used so universally that everyone innately recognises their meaning. Take the red cross in real life, for example. Everyone knows it means aid, especially medical. Visual language can be very powerful.
As for if they use multiple mediums together, itâs again up to the person. Novices are best off using a lot of different tools to keep themselves in check, whereas masters of the craft tend to only use a few that theyâve grown comfortable with and mostly use as a failsafe. They could do without but prefer not to - just in case.
What do you mean, âwhiteâ? As in literally itâs white vapour? That sounds neat, though.
That is such a pretty middle name!
Interesting⌠so the intent must have to be pretty solid and clear then? If you got distracted, it would be all over? If the magic just lies dormant, are there cases where someone doesnât know they have magic or will the magic one day explode because it kind of has a mind of its own? Or does it only explode once the person summons it?
Aw 
I wish them the best. Thatâs cool you have a character like that in your story.
Itâs interesting how the order paladin? mage? has severe dysphoria. It sounds opposite. Not saying order mage people have to be sure of themselves. Does their dysphoria affect their magic?
From simply reading your explanation, the person with dysphoria having chaos magic makes more sense, but somehow the opposite works⌠is that something to do with opposites balancing each other out?
Iâm trying to form my thoughts into words 
I can think of an example from my own story. The world of Elgana is all about balance magick. Thatâs the umbrella term for all magick. Everything about the world exists because of this delicate balance between opposing forces like peace and chaos, love and hate, greed and selflessness, light and dark, good and evilâŚetc. There canât be too much of a good thing or too much of a bad thing.
In ancient Elgana, when the native bipeds lived, many had elemental magick. Sometimes you get ones who are born with opposing magick like fire and water. This creates a storm which is chaos, but also peace because the end of the storm can be a rainbow, right? Storms can also help plants grow. If the user just has fire, they burn everything. If they just have water, they drown everything. A balance is the best.
Not to say that fire element wielders are all about chaos. They can learn to control their powers, but itâs far easier to slip into chaos than if they had both fire and water.
So, when I hear about someone with dysphoria having order magic, it sounds kind of like this balancing of magic or energy to me.
Idk where Iâm going with this Maybe you can explain more about how the opposite magics interact with each other? And compare it to Elganaâs balance magick?
Inspiration
When it passes through a gem, it becomes different colors. This is for a different story btw. A four book series.
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Depends a lot on circumstances. I got a bit over excited and explained it wrong.
You have to try pretty hard to be able to âconjure magic upâ, so to speak. In most places, itâs always around in low levels, invisible but everywhere. Only if you try very hard (intent) can you make it obey you. Or when youâre overpowered by such strong emotions/intentions that it just follows your lead, like when you curse someone who killed your family except the curse actually happens.
If youâre bad at magic and canât focus for the life of you, simply nothing will happen. However, if you have managed to conjure up some magic and lose control over it, thatâs when the weird stuff happens. This is especially a problem for those with a strong natural aptitude for magic, like D&D wild magic sorcerers. Then it can just cause all sorts of effects, ranging from good to neutral to very dangerous or plain weird.
Gwydion isnât very big on âmaintaining orderâ or whatever. They want to offer people a healthy, stable life, which is why theyâre a doctor (and a healer in places that allow it). I think mostly they try not to think about it at all, meaning using spells on themselves is more difficult.
Anyone could wield chaos magic if you have the knowledge â in pure theory, since this is a type of magic thatâs notorious for not doing what you want it to do and being difficult to control. The magic folks use mostly depends on what environment they grew up in, what they were exposed to, and therefore what they feel comfortable with. Gwydion was professionally schooled in the arts of protection and healing, while Mathias was⌠a lot less fortunate in terms of teachers.
Who decides what is good and what is evil? Ethics and morals are mainly a social construct, and what is âgoodâ and what is âbadâ changes over time. For example, in Ancient Rome, unquestioning and unwavering loyalty to your leader was considered the greatest trait, as was beauty. Questioning your leader and/or being ugly was a sin. That has changed a lot over the years.
Itâs⌠hmmm. Itâs not so much âopposites magicâ. What makes a magic X or Y in my setting is how you use it. In its purest form, everything is just energy. How you shape it is what makes it something, and names have power. By naming something, you give it meaning to you, making it easier to control because itâs really just a mind game. So itâs more mindset than anything?
Oooh that looks pretty :o
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Hiiiiiiiiiiiiii 
Itâs really nice to see you back 
Iâve had some good, some bad, you know how it is, but overall, I canât complain. Iâm actually on holiday right now 
And Iâve restarted my writing this year (my current WIP is a vampire romance-ish lmao) sooooooo 
Iâm really glad to hear youâve found a safe home and a kitty friend I havenât managed to check the whole thread - could you share pics? 
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So, in your world, if magic is all around, is it ever in the plants? (Someone asked me this question in the context of Elgana and I said yes, thereâs some mushrooms in the Fourth Ring where Sorcerers live that absorb the magick and glow.)
In your world, does everyone become a mage or are there people who choose not to?
Are there any magical non-human creatures?
I realized long after posting, that I got carried away naming opposites Forget about the good and evil part. Thatâs too close to morals.
I see. I guess thatâs the same in Elgana (with a few exceptions). The Kattaluna race (bipedal felines) in their most prosperous days, all used lunar magick. They used it for good, but itâs not like it couldnât be used for âevilâ deeds, like, idk, killing their own kind or something.
Although in Elgana, since balance comes into play, greed and selfishness can corrupt someone magically.
Do you have anything like that in your story? If the mindset of the person becomes too toxic, could it affect the magic? Could the magic ever take over someoneâs mind?
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Ooh! Hope youâre having a good time <3
Do go on 
Yesss.
Yep, it is. In some areas more than others. Especially on ley lines or other magical places.
Theoretically, anyone could use magic. In practice, itâs a low fantasy setting, and most donât have the aptitude or the training. It requires a decent amount of schooling to be able to conjure up magic for a regular person â it only happens by accident in very, very rare cases.
Not in the novella (unless you count a sentient cat?), at least not in the foreground. A bunch are mentioned in the first chapter in passing as environment description - think merfolk, undead skeletons, pixies, etc. Thereâs more, but not actively in the story at the moment.
For sure, because mindset also affects how far youâre willing to go and what your intent is. It can also drive you further and further into one extreme. Especially the magics considered âdarkerâ (more dangerous)
Very much so! This happens to the MC actually. If you conjure magic up too strong for you and you can no longer control it, it will control you. This is why discipline is so important. Magic wants to exist, to move, to do something, so if you lose control over it, itâll start taking more energy from the environment and from you. If you run out of mana, itâll use your life force as energy source, until that too is gone.
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ItâsâŚcomplicated But it started with a dream I had (Twilight 2.0 much, lol) about a vampire queen having to get married in order to escape an assassination threat. So she marries her human friend. I built up all the whys and hows around that, et voila.
Omg Karel is an adorable chonk and your place looks greaaaaaattttt 
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