Struggling Writers’ Daily Den: rant, share, complain, ask, daily progress thing (Part 2)

Developing the religions in my world. (What a fun idea, Jojo! Definitely not going to be a headache, no no). Earlier I’d decided there are two main religions, which although aligned with the cosmogony of the universe, are at odds with each other. To put it very simply, one is anti-magic and the other is pro-magic.

Okay, easy enough… but wait! The anti-magic religion now has two major sects, each with differing philosophies and worship, seven churches, canon laws, schools, monastic orders, knightly orders, cults, syncretism. Oh! And the internal politicking and power struggles that spill into state power struggles, royal legitimacy and wars.

And that’s only one! I haven’t touched the pro-magic religion, or the folk & fringe religions (including my beloved naked cult which will cause absolute havoc at some point in the book). And since I’m making the world into a TTRPG, I need to figure out the game mechanics of it all.

I dunno why I have to do the absolute MOST. I cant help it. Help. I’m going mad.

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Share: I had a reading exchange with another friend last Sunday, and it went really well! We had to change venues that day due to unforeseen circumstances, but what I thought would be a two-hour meetup ended up being a much longer event.

click here to read how it went :D

He and I were supposed to have our little reading session at Kopi Café, which we chose because it had comfy seating and was close enough to where we lived. We scheduled the meetup for 1:00 p.m. on Sunday. However, I woke up rather late that day, so I texted him that I was more likely to show up by 1:30 p.m. :sweat: yet somehow, against all odds, I managed to reach Kopi Café exactly at 1:00 p.m., which was our initial agreement. The café was extremely busy, so I put us on a waitlist and waited outside.

He arrived sometime after I did. We were given a table, and it was pretty noisy inside, so it wasn’t the most conducive to just chilling and reading. We ended up talking about stuff over drinks—a chamomile-based tea in his case, and two different types of hot chocolate in mine. We decided to just head elsewhere to have the reading session since the café was too crowded. I asked him if he knew of any places where we could hang out, and he couldn’t think of any other cafés, but he did suggest his apartment.

We paid for our drinks and then went to his apartment. He kept on saying that it was pretty messy, especially since he had yet-to-be-unpacked boxes in his dining room, but it was honestly well-kept! Especially the living room. We sat next to each other on his couch while reading each other’s stories. I read three of the five chapters he had finished writing while he tried to read as many chapters of Blood Will Tell as he could in an hour. If you’re wondering why I didn’t try to do the same, well, I was a much faster reader with a much longer backlog—if I were to read all his chapters, he would hardly be left with any material for me to read for future reading sessions :joy:

The discussion afterward was pretty fun! Aside from talking about what we liked about each other’s stories, we also put forward some theories about what was going to happen in future chapters. Well, I put more theories forward since he was writing a mystery story and I wasn’t—but also, he admitted that he doesn’t think too much about theories while reading stories, so he didn’t have much to say regarding that. He said that I wasn’t as info-dumpy which I’m still a bit surprised by, but I’m relieved regardless.

Oh, and thankfully, he said that my main character acted like he was in his early twenties! And so did my ex. Unfortunately many others thought Edin was much younger :sob:

We talked about a bunch of other things, and he showed me his bookshelf. He arranged his books so that his favorites would occupy the top shelf. One of them was titled, Everything Men Know About Women, and he insisted that I open it.

The pages were blank :rofl:

That was also when we found out that we grew up in opposite environments—I’ve spent my time in mostly male environments, so much so that being in a non-bathroom room full of women throws me off, whereas he’s spent much more time in female-majority environments. I mean, he majored in biochemistry, while I went to a top engineering school. It’s not too surprising now that I think about it.

We met up sometime after 1:00 p.m., went to his apartment at 2:30 p.m., and I left his place three hours later. I honestly can’t wait for the next reading exchange! Maybe this time we’ll skip the café and I’ll walk straight to his place, and I’ll bring some tea and other goodies too :star_struck:

Ask: Let’s assume you have a writer friend irl who’s working on the first draft of their novel, and they ask you if you want to do a reading exchange with them. From the words “reading exchange,” do you assume it’ll be a more casual thing or lean more towards critiques?

Asking this because I’ve done it with two different people who both took the phrase very differently.

The first person I did it with sent me some completed short stories for me to go over, and at the end of the reading session, he opened an app on his laptop to type out notes. He assumed it was going to be a more critical or analytical kind of exchange, where he’d receive critiques and he’d also give me critiques. I had to explain that I wasn’t looking for critiques at this stage of writing, especially since I haven’t finished the book, let alone started editing it :sob: otherwise I would’ve called it a feedback exchange and not a reading exchange.

The second person I did it with, on the other hand, thought that it was going to be a more casual thing, which was a huge relief. I think it also helped that we were both working on the first draft of novels that were far from completion—although his is and will be much shorter than mine.

Now I’m wondering if I have to rename the meetup to “casual non-critique and reactionary reading exchange” to get the point across before someone misunderstands :see_no_evil:

Progress: I’m almost done with Chapter LX of Blood Will Tell! I managed to add about a few hundred words, and the current word count for that chapter is roughly 2900. Hopefully I’ll be able to wrap it up soon!

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That book with the blank pages. :laughing:

As for “reading exchange”, honestly you can’t predict everyone. Best thing you can do is clarify the purpose of the exchange with each person you interact with. This way you can both suss out early whether you’re compatible for an exchange or are looking for feedback the other can’t or doesn’t want to provide.

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I am so F’N tired. :melting_face:

Too burned out to write, so I just think about my AU instead. Write down any dialogue or new thoughts on my phone really quick. That’s really it. :woman_shrugging:

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Thanks for answering! Yeah, I will admit that the thing with the first exchange caught me off guard. He and I’ve been seeing each other at writers’ meetups and hanging out outside of them, and I’ve mentioned multiple times in the past that I don’t look for critiques until I’m done with the book. He’s also told me in the past that he’s been wanting to read my stuff to support other writers. Hell, I think I might’ve mentioned in the texts and emails I sent that I was just hoping to read some of his stuff while he read mine so that it wouldn’t be solely him reading my stuff.

So it was a shock when he pulled out his note-taking app with the intent to exchange more serious feedback. I don’t know if I wasn’t clear enough or if he was just forgetful, but it did make me feel a little guilty. Even more when he joked a few days afterward: “So you can sh-t all over my stories, but I can’t do the same to you?”

I mean, I wasn’t looking for that in the first place :sob: and I told him that we could give whatever feedback the author wanted to hear, and he told me he wanted more substantial notes, so that’s exactly what I gave him. He also mentioned how he almost desperately wanted to give me critiques on my book, but didn’t because he realized it wasn’t what I was looking for. I get it, but like… I know that my first draft needs edits, but at the same time, we’re talking an incomplete book that’s 170,000 words deep and part of a trilogy with an intricate web of events—if I change one thing, it could cause a big ripple effect across the series :sob: it’s not like a short story where you can change one thing and absolutely nothing else will be affected. I have small details in my work that’ll play a major role later on, and those also tie into other events.

The second exchange went much better. After we read each other’s stories, I asked him if he was intending it to be more casual. He told me that his impression was that it was going to be a more casual thing, and we both breathed a huge sigh of relief. I told that friend about what happened with the first exchange—including the joke that my first friend said—and he raised an eyebrow at that, saying that I wasn’t in the wrong. I guess it also helped that he had attempted writing a much larger work in the past, only to scrap it since the scale of the work had gotten too large—and that it’d be a pain to edit.

Looking back at it, that second friend and I are the same age, working on longer fiction, and people who majored in STEM who just so happened to really like writing. The first one is about half a decade older and majored in screenplay writing, which meant that he was very much used to exchanging critiques on (incomplete) writing. Welp :see_no_evil:

Oh, and another thing: with how far ahead I am with my story and with how fast I read, I’ve told both friends that I intend to read their stories as slowly as possible so that they don’t run out of material for future reading exchanges. The second person seemed more okay with things, whereas the first would sometimes joke about how lopsided things are :melting_face: when the first friend found out that I’ve only read three of the second friend’s chapters instead of all five completed ones, he then asked me 1) why I didn’t read all of his chapters, and 2) why I blazed through his short stories, knowing that I was already purposefully slowing down my reading speed :sob:

I can’t go back in time and erase all my progress so that I’m only 10,000 words into my story instead of 170,000 :melting_face: there was even one year where I only wrote one chapter because I was too busy being crushed by engineering school to write.

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writing for me has been going pretty good for me lately bad thing was I wasn’t balancing my time very well. I’m trying to do better with it so im not burnt out

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I need motivation

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I’ll need to start purposefully scheduling writing time if I want to finish THFAS :thinking:

Im finding that relying only on mood/motivation to write, like before, isn’t working very well with my work schedule

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Finally started editing AAD again.

Not looking for feedback. Just wanted to share.

While Allen did wish that one day he would be free of the past he wanted to leave behind, he was conflicted, for the past was what made him who he was today.

He knew a witch that could help him forget. After coming back to life, he visited her and she offered to do it without cost. But before she could complete the procedure, he realized that no matter how painful his past was, he didn’t want to forget everything. There were days that were good, too. And so, Allen didn’t go through with it. The past captured him, and he willingly remained in its talons.


and this

“And you’re a grain-brained Arcan,” he said, which honestly didn’t make much sense, but there was something about “grain-brained” that annoyed Arcans who did, indeed, eat a lot of grain.

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LMAO I felt that in my own brain

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lol

It’s a new insult I created which a school teacher character said to another guy (an Arcan) who insulted the school teacher

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Rant: What is it with a certain subset of people who’ve resided west of the Prime Meridian and north of the Equator for a substantial part of their lives and spouting misguided—and at times blatantly false—statements about places they’ve never been to as fact? Or worse: doing so in the presence of someone who is either from that country or far more familiar with it, and when being corrected, not only interrupt, but double down?

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

And the thing is that it’s not exclusive to right-wing racists and villagers from some middle-of-nowhere small town. I’ve heard such statements from those who are not only college-educated, but graduated with honors, and one of them came from a multi-cultural background and spent a good few years of his childhood in another country. No, you’re not immune to believing and spouting falsehoods and exaggerations. You’re not immune to being bigoted. You and your circle are not immune to saying or doing or thinking this bad thing or that bad thing or another bad thing just because you think Trump sucks.

Don’t be so quick to judge or label a foreign country, region, or culture just because your fellow Westerners—who may be biased, misinformed, and frankly most likely to have never come physically close to that geographic area of interest—did so too, whether online or not.

Gosh. Makes me glad I was born and raised in Southeast Asia. Sure, I’m from the developing world, but the stuff that comes out of Western-university-educated-self-proclaimed-inclusive mouths makes my non-politically correct self look more… I don’t even know what the correct term would be.

You’d think it’d be common sense to not dispute people from that place who are trying to correct your less-knowledgeable self. But alas.

Share: The usual spot was taken, so this one other dude and I claimed a high table for write night. I had only met him once before, and funnily enough, the first time we talked to each other was when I joined write night remotely—I was in Connecticut at the time for a job interview I was to have the following day, so I called one of my friends and spoke through the speakerphone. He revealed that he wasn’t able to join the previous week and, while he did join the event two weeks ago, he saw that we were seated elsewhere and decided to not move tables.

Then my other friends arrived! Tonight’s prompt was rather fun: “Write something about the Chicago Bears.” (For those who’re unaware, we lost :melting_face: in a close game that went into overtime as well :sob: BUT AT LEAST WE BEAT THE PACKERS.) I was stuck at first, but I managed to get out some material. After I finished reading my snippet aloud, they remarked that I had written a lot in ten minutes, especially considering how I was stuck for part of it. I guess I just have speedy fingers :sunglasses:

I also spoke about the whole reading exchange thing I was doing with two others. The guy I’ve known for a shorter time said it sounded very interesting. I don’t know when I’ll schedule the next one. It might be this weekend or the following weekend. Maybe this weekend; one of my friends asked me if I had plans, and I said I didn’t, and he didn’t really have concrete plans, but there are things going on right now and he might need a listening ear after playing the role of listening ear for other people in his life who need one.

I remember him saying that he likes chamomile-based teas. I just found out that one of my favorite tea blends has notes of chamomile in it! Maybe I’ll text him if he’d like to have another combined reading and venting session sometime, and I’ll bring the tea with me!

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Well, I’m glad that wasn’t all negatives. But yeah, there’s a fundamental issue with people who walk into everything thinking they are right without caveat. And the hardest ones to move are generally those who think you’re inept.

I know editing this story is going to be so darn hard when it hits that point and it’s messing with my head.

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I haven’t really written much today because of distractions.
I am still on chapter 6.

I’m writing a story about an old man. I don’t care who reads it, or who likes it. I want to write one about an old man, even if it’s short. Old people don’t get enough love in literary spaces, and I am glad when I see a story with an older character. Especially grandparents and grannies solving mysteries. :smiley:

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To see elders honored, you have to go back pretty dang far, in classic lit.

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Share: Had to cancel a reading exchange with one friend this week because I didn’t wake up feeling super well, but on the bright side, I’ll be having a reading exchange with another friend this Sunday! I’m really looking forward to that. Remind me to bring the fancy tea this weekend :eyes:

Progress: Finally finished Chapter LX of Blood Will Tell! And it’s a little over 4000 words long :sob: welp, there goes my cap of 3000 words in a chapter. The average chapter in Act II is 2500 to 3500 words long :face_with_spiral_eyes: meanwhile Act I has an average chapter length of 1500 to 2500 words. To be fair, Act II also has a lot more lore and other content going on compared to Act I. Act III is going to be a headache to write :dizzy_face: I know for a fact that Edin will undergo his senior guardian arc and also develop his relationship with Arden, but at the same time, with the reveal of Edin and Damon’s blood ties being moved to Act II, I’m struggling to think of how I can pace and structure Act III well enough that it makes sense and doesn’t mess up the timeline in Volumes 2 and 3.

I just had to start two lengthy fantasy series with total word count going into the hundreds of thousands :melting_face: at least I’m roughly 172K words into Book 1 of the Gifted Blood trilogy, and just started the third book of the Other Realms series.

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I have to start chapter 10 tomorrow.
At least I managed to finish chapter 9.

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