NOTE: NOT TROPES OR CLICHES, ONLY THEMES AND EVEN MORALS IN A STORY!!!
Are there themes in fiction that you get tired of or hate seeing? These are the themes you roll your eyes at when you understand it.
Thoughts and feelings?
NOTE: NOT TROPES OR CLICHES, ONLY THEMES AND EVEN MORALS IN A STORY!!!
Are there themes in fiction that you get tired of or hate seeing? These are the themes you roll your eyes at when you understand it.
Thoughts and feelings?
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To save the world we need to destroy magic-in a setting where magic isnât explicitly harmful.
Ignorance is so bliss.
All of them. Because I am an english teacher. I want to read the story not try to show that depression is a theme because a character has blue curtains dammit
Do you typically enjoy books that arenât like that?
Though I get what you mean.
That âtrue loveâ cures depression and makes all the bad things in life go away and itâs all happily ever after once you find someone that can âfix youâ. Thatâs not how it works. Real love is hard work and it comes with itâs own set of problems. It does not fix the problems you had before, all it does is give you a support system to help you fix them yourself. Thatâs not to say that love is bad, it just isnât a magic pill that takes away all the bad things in life.
Itâs weird when you tell someone this, they think you are a heartless and unloving person.
Why?
Thatâs a theme of a story?
I did say donât use tropes or cliches.
Yeah, so many stories just have politics randomly forced into them these days. Iâm not saying âdonât do itâ but Iâm saying âtake time to do it properly and make us see how important it is to the storyâ.
So. Politics in any novel bother you?
I donât hate any
Oh wait actually I hate hate hate whatever Ayn Rand was trying to say in her sorry excuses for philosophical novels
When itâs not placed in it properly.
Explain?
I hear people badmouth this woman a lot on YouTube.
That makes sense.
Got anything else to add?
All tropes are clicheâs, and all clicheâs are tropes⌠To a degree that isâŚ
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I am talking about themes not tropes/cliches.
Basically the theme of her books is âObjectivismâ â an idea she claims to be a âphilosophyâ. At the core of which is that uninhibited self-interest is good and altruism is destructive. She claimed this was true human nature, and how one is supposed to live their life. In simple terms, selfishness is good; helping others is bad.
Obviously, this is absolute nonsense. Anyone with even a little knowledge in philosophy, social sciences, biology or even critical thinking could tell you that. We wouldnât survive without cooperation and altruism. âObjectivismâ is a joke that doesnât hold up both philosophically and practically.
Yet somehow people keep reading her books. And sheâs become something of a âfree-thinkingâ pariah. People, especially finance bros, misguided dudes, incels etc etc., use Objectivism to rationalise being utter a-holes in their careers and personal lives. One could use this flimsy excuse to be a: misogynist, racist, classist, xenophobe, rape apologists etc etc â itâs just really heinous stuff. Oh yeah and the whole right-wing adoption of herâŚ
There hasnât been enough dissection of her idea in order to expose how stupid it is. But then again, itâs such a joke that it doesnât warrant any serious inquiry.
It irks me when I see people calling for borderline anti-intellectualism: âStop preaching! Not everything is that deep! Let us enjoy the book!â. If we donât preach, we get idiots like Ayn Rand fancying themselves to be philosophers!